Official Cross Country State Rankings, Post Pre-State

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Girls State Rankings, by Classification:

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1A Girls Rankings

  By: Nathan Means, Mount Dora Bible School, nathan.means@chbs.org

Team Rankings:

Commentary: Oak Hall is really starting to establish itself as the leader.  Holy Trinity needs to close up their split.  Providence seems to be sliding back a little, Van Liere did not run (or finish?) their last meet.  Not a lot of movement otherwise.  Northside and Trinity Prep may be closer than they appear; Pre-State's Friday night race was very warm.  A couple of new entries move in as Keswick and St. John's Country Day start pulling it together.
 
  Team Name, Region (Prev.)  Comments:
1. Oak Hall School, R1 (2) 19:22 average at Pre-State Elite race
2. Holy Trinity Academy, R3 (1) 19:44 average at Holy Trinity
3. Providence School, R1 (3) 20:35 average at Ponte Vedra
4. Maclay School, R1 (4) 20:33 average at FSU (not seeing any results since then)
5. Northside Christian, R3 (6) 20:38 average at Pre-State Elite race
6. Trinity Prep, R2 (5) 21:09 averate at Pre-State Friday race
7. Community School of Naples, R3 (8) 21:02 average at Pre-State Invitational race
8. Lakeland Christian, R3 (7) 21:12 average at Pre-State Invitational race (identical to their flrunners average!)
9. Westminster Academy, R4 (9) 21:36 average at Westminster Invitational
10. Keswick Christian, R3 (NR) 21:24 average at Pre-State Invitational race
11. Shorecrest Prep, R3 (12) 21:46 average at Disney
12. Pope John Paul II, R4 (11) 21:54 average at flrunners 12 Invitational race
13. St. John's Country Day, R1 (NR) 21:58 average at Keystone Heights
14. Circle Christian, R2 (14) 22:58 average at Pre-State Friday race (without Bryce Seymour)
15. Seffner Christian, R2 (10) 22:32 average at Pre-State Invitational race
 

Individual Rankings: 

Commentary: This is a tough call at the top.  Wollrath ran on the blazing fast Holy Trinity course, while Candiano and Seymour ran the Pre-State course, which isn't quite as fast (but still fast).  Their top times also still date back to flrunners.  In the mean time, the rest are just jockeying for position, with only two new entries into the ranks.  Notable is that all 25 are under the 20:00 mark now.
 
  Athlete Name, Grade – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Julie Wollrath, 9 - Holy Trinity Academy (1b) 17:31 @ 12th Annual Holy Trinity Fall Classic
2. Sarah Candiano, 9 - Evangelical Christian School (1a) 17:51 @ flrunners 12 Race of Champions for 4th
3. Bryce Seymour, 11 - Circle Christian School (3) 17:58 @ flrunners 12 Race of Champions for 5th
4. Brittney Olinger, 10 - Oak Hall School (6) 18:20 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational
5. Katelyn Greenleaf, 12 - Northside Christian (4) 18:23 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational
6. Stefanie Kurgatt, 11 - Maclay School (5) 18:41 @ FSU Seminole Invitational
7. Lauren Perry, 7 - Oak Hall School (10) 18:49 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational
8. Kelly Fahey, 11 - Trinity Prep (7) 18:56 @ flrunners 12 Invitational race
9. Mallory White, 11 - Lakeland Christian (8) 19:00 @ flrunners 12 Invitational race
10. Claire Snyder, 10 - Tampa Prep (16) 19:06 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational
11. Danielle Van Liere, 8 - Providence School (9) 19:07 @ Ridgeview Bob Hans Invitational
12. Sabrina Whiting, 10 - Seffner Christian Academy HS (11) 19:18 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational
13. Mackenzie Dummer, 11 - Holy Trinity Academy (13) 19:15 @ 12th Annual Holy Trinity Fall Classic
14. Lauren Gillespy, 12 - Father Lopez Catholic HS (20) 19:16 @ 12th Annual Holy Trinity Fall Classic
15. Emily Chapman, 9 - Brevard HEAT (22) 19:23 @ 12th Annual Holy Trinity Fall Classic
16. Denae Chapman, 8 - Circle Christian School (12) 19:26 @ flrunners 12 Invitational race
17. Adair Lyden, 8 - Westminster Academy (14) 19:37 @ Spanish River Invitational
18. Brianna Wahy, 11 - Holy Trinity Academy (19) 19:34 @ 12th Annual Holy Trinity Fall Classic
19. Kristin Sweeney, 11 - Maclay School (15) 19:39 @ FSU Seminole Invitational
20 Ciara Hopkins, 9 - Montverde Academy (24) 19:45 @ Hagerty Invitational
21. Rebecca Eaves, 12 - Lakeland Christian (17) 19:47 @ flrunners 12 Invitational race
22. Emily Stallings, 10 - Providence School (18) 19:48 @ Bail-n-Trail
23. Talia Carlson, 7 - Oak Hall School (NR) 19:49 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational
24. Elsa Jaworski, 9 - Trinity Prep (21) 19:51 @ flrunners 12 Invitational race
25. Lindsay Tomaini, 8 - Community School of Naples (NR) 19:56 @ Little Everglades Pre-State Invitational

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2A Girls Rankings

  By: Gerry Spring, Lake Highland Prep, gspring@lhps.org

Team Rankings:

Commentary:  Pre State helped answer some questions but still has not fully settled all. Cocoa Beach running at HTA kept all the contenders from being head to head but nobody said this job was going to be easy! Head to head competition moved a number of teams up. Congrats to all on two weeks of fast times and strong results.
 
  Team Name    Comments:
1. American Heritage   Strong showing the past two weeks shoots them to the top - beats BK head to head.
2. Bishop Kenny   I still like their 1-5 spread in a big meet.
3. Cocoa Beach   Strong showing at HTA - still need to close 1-5 gap in my humble opinion.
4. Bolles   Always regroups and saves the best for the last three weeks - Can they do it again?
5. Lincoln Park   Continues to improve - solid averages all the way around
6. Pine Crest   Solid all the way around.
7. Episcopal   Solid 1-2 at prestate keeps them in the mix.
8. Bishop Moore   Strong freshmen results make for a solid 1-2-3 as  state series approaches.
9. Carrolton   Don’t count them up yet!
10. Gulliver Prep   Good team effort all season.
11. Titusville    Seen them a number of times all season - very consistent
12. Ransom Everglades   Might deserve to be higher - good results
13. Titusville    Team continues to improve! 
14. Gulf   Could be much higher as well - still improving
15. Immokalee   Holding down the 15th spot this week
 

Individual Rankings: 

  Athlete Name – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Shelby Davidson C Beach (1) 3rd place at Holy Trinity (17 36) keeps her up front.
2. Kari Grippo - Gulf   Closing the gap after a solid race at pre-state
3. Daesha Rogers - Am Heritage   Takes the lead at pre -state - moves up with 18 16.
4. Ashley Heitling MD   Movin on up - great results this past weekend.
5. Joanna McCoy - Gulliver   18 39 at Holy trinity keeps her in top 5.
6. Savanna Gornisiewicz- P Crest   Moves up on spot wit 18 46 result.
7. Kaysi Roberts - West Fl tech   19 14 pops her into the 7th spot.
8. Mackenzie Wilson Episcopal   Strong 1-2 punch up front E with strong race for Griggs at pre state.
9. Claire Castillo - Titusville   Continues a  strong season - wins at hagerty in a monsoon.
10. Kelly Hensley - Lincoln Park   Cracks top ten with fast finish at HTA.
11. Rachelle Alexander - Am Heritage   Helps lead move to the top for AH.
12. Christine Griggs- Episcopal    Strong finish at pre state!
13. Mary Kate Thyfault BK   Still leads strong team effort.
14. Maleia Storum CB   Helps keep CB in top 3.
15. Julia DeYoung - Robinson   19 33 moves her to top 15.
16. Lauren Archer  RE   19 34 - great result!
17. Ella Wurth -Pcrest   A lot of fast results above pushes her to 17.
18. Macy Kaczorowski BK   19 40 - Bk times are dropping too!
19. Colleen Doherty AHN   Holding in the top 20.
20. Tia-Rose Raymond L Park   Helps a resurgence of L park. (19 48)

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3A Girls Rankings

  By: Andy Holmes, Seffner Christian Academy, aholmes@scacrusaders.com

Team Rankings:

Commentary: Another shake-up in this week's rankings! We finally got to see Chiles, Estero, and Lakewood Ranch race each other, and Estero comes away with a resounding victory. As expected, excellent competition and cool weather led to fast times at Pre-State, especially in the Girls Elite race. We now look ahead to championship week, as we are but 2 weeks away from Districts.
 
  Team Name, Region (Prev.)  Comments:
1. Estero, 3 (2) 18:42; Put 6 in front of Chiles #4 runner to somewhat easily take title at Pre-State Elite
2. Chiles, 1 (1) 18:44; Big gap between #3 and #4 runners hard to overcome, but still take home Runner-up in Elite race
3. Lakewood Ranch, 3 (3) 19:36; Could have placed higher, but Devin McDermott does not race, so team finishes 9th behind 4A power Lourdes
4. Creekside, 1 (4) 20:14; Travel out of state to Nike Fleet Feet Invite and win race in championship division
5. St. Cloud, 2 (7) 20:00; 10th at Pre-State Elite, still moving up in the rankings each week
6. Fort Walton Beach, 1 (5) 20:36; Week off from racing, but place 4th at Disney, just behind St. Cloud
7. Niceville, 1 (6) 21:22; Also have week off from racing, but take 5th place at Southeast XC Showdown on slower course
8. Gulf Coast, 3 (9) 20:16; Jump up a spot in the rankings with 14th place finish at Pre-State Elite
9. Fort Myers, 3 (8) 20:51; Team runs in Invitational division at Pre-State, and places 2nd, without Rachel Petrik, who races in Elite race
10. Wiregrass Ranch, 2 (11) 20:19; Pre-State host has good showing against Elite competition and places 16th
11. Merritt Island, 2 (NR) 21:33; Team does not race this weekend, but takes 9th at Disney in 3A race
12. Nease, 1 (13) 20:38; Team time continues to drop with top 20 team showing at Pre-State Elite
13. Bartram Trail, 1 (12) 20:46; Strong pack of 2-5 runners after Ingoldsby helps team at Pre-State
14. Northeast, 2 (NR) 21:43; Team races at Pre-State Friday in warmer conditions and places 5th
15. Melbourne, 2 (NR) 21:08; Just 1 point behind Northeast at Friday Pre-State race
       
  Watch List (in no particular order): Osceola, Stanton Prep, Naples, Vanguard, King, Choctawhatchee, Matanzas, Charlotte, Ridgeview, Ida S. Baker, Steinbrenner, Lemon Bay, Lake Region
 

Individual Rankings: 

Commentary: The top 3 finishers at Pre-State Elite were from the top 3 schools in 3A. What an exciting race it was that produced some of the fastest times this year, as 5 girls went under 18 minutes, and 20 went under 19 minutes.
 
  Athlete Name, Grade – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Olivia Ortiz, 11 Lakewood Ranch (2) 17:41; Takes over top spot with surge up the hill at Pre-State to defeat Williams
2. Lily Williams, 12 Chiles (1) 17:46; Shoulder to shoulder with Ortiz until last few hundred meters, settles for 2nd
3. Vanessa Valentine, 12 Melbourne (3) 18:00; Could she have beaten Ortiz or Williams had she run Saturday? Wins Friday race untouched
4. Kacy Smith, 11 Estero (6) 17:47; Late kick up hill at Pre-State almost takes her past Williams, but runs a great race anyway taking 3rd
5. Carly Thomas, 12 Chiles (4) 17:55; Solid race at Pre-State for 5th place finish in under 18
6. Bethany Jenkins, 10 Estero (13) 18:19; Moves way up in the rankings with top 10 finish at Pre-State
7. Rachel Givens, 11 Chiles (7) 18:22; Chiles places 3 runners in the top 7, including Givens
8. Ivy Chastain, 11 Fort Walton Beach (9) 19:32; No races this week, places 7th at Disney in 3A Girls race
9. Anne-Marie Blaney, 12 Belleview (5) 18:43; Places 1st at Villages Buffalo Invitational after running 18:28 at LOL Invite 3 days earlier
10. Nikita Shah, 11 Wiregrass Ranch (10) 18:38; 16th at Pre-State in new personal best time
11. Katy G. Solis, 11 Estero (8) 18:42; 17th Pre-State Elite as Estero places 2 under 19 after Smith
12. Marsel Mosley, 11 Niceville (11) 19:51; Places 5th at Southeast XC Showdown- no racing this past week
13. Caroline Barlow, 10 Gulf Coast (14) 18:46; Top 20 showing at Pre-State in 19th place
14. Hannah Loder, 11 Matanzas (12) 18:51; Runs alone and wins Invitational division at Pre-State
15. Elizabeth Harper, 11 Merritt Island (15) 19:45; Braves weather at Disney for 8th place
16. Rachel Petrik, 12 Fort Myers (19) 18:52; 22nd place finish at Pre-State Elite
17. Sarah Heisner, 11 Creekside (NR) 19:55; Joins the rankings beating teammates Rodriguez twins at Nike Fleet Feet
18. Elizabeth Mulford, 9 Vanguard (NR) 19:24; Also joins the rankings by finishing 3rd at Pre-State Friday
19. Kristin Zarrella, 11 Lakewood Ranch (18) 19:04; #2 LWR finisher at Pre-State behind Ortiz
20 Lauren Rodriguez, 12 Creekside (21) 20:01; Finishes ahead of sister this time at Nike Fleet Feet
21. Ashlyn Stadtlander, 12 St. Cloud (NR) 19:13; Helps team to 11th place finish at Pre-State Elite
22. Alexis Irwin, 12 Osceola (16) 19:39; Races on Friday at Pre-State and places 6th
23. Kaitlin Rodriguez, 12 Creekside (17) 20:04; Helps team take title at Nike Fleet Feet Invite
24. Maria Frank, 11 Estero (22) 19:14; 4th finisher for Estero, as team places 4 in the top 30
25. Araceli Leon, 10 South Fort Myers (37) 19:46; Latest posted result was time at Triton Invite

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4A Girls Rankings

  By: Ryan Raposo, John A. Ferguson HS - rraposo@dadeschools.net

Team Rankings:

Commentary: With Pre-State over with, it's easy to see just how tight all of the 4A girls team are to one another and how having a sub-par racing day could easily drop a handful of spots. As teams start to wind down into their county / city / conference championship season, I don't think there will be much of a shake-up in these rankings with exception to the battle for the 6th spot in Region 1. There are four very strong teams between 9th and 10th this week just because of how close they all are! Keep fighting it out, ladies!
 
  Team Name, Region (Prev.)  Comments:
1. St. Thomas Aquinas, 3 (7) 19:18 Team Avg, 3rd @ Pre-State Elite; Don't let the previous ranking fool you, these girls ran a tremendous race from beginning to end and they truly dominated. Look at them to be the favorite for the 4A Championship this season. (Keep in mind that their  #1 runner from the beginning of the season, Kalis, still hasn't come back yet.)
T-2. Plant, 2 (T-1) 19:24 Team Avg, 4th @ Pre-State Elite; Although Coach Harrison felt they were a little flat, the depth of Plant has shown to definitely be the strongest in the state with eight girls sub-20 and all of them in my top 50 in the individual rankings. Once they put together a solid performance, they'll be unstoppable.
T-2. Ferguson, 4 (T-1) 19:24 Team Avg, 5th @ Pre-State Elite; After basking in the glory of being ranked #1 for the first time ever, the Falcons put together a decent team performance at Pre-State, but got beat by two much stronger teams. Depth doesn't mean a heck of a lot if the back-half of varsity doesn't push up with that top half.
4. Lourdes Academy, 4 (8) 19:46 Team Avg, 8th @ Pre-State Elite; Missing 2 of their top 5 runners; Please let no one be confused that Lourdes was ranked 8th a couple of weeks ago. These girls have been nursing a few injuries and are working their way back up, and fast! Don't expect them to be full strength for a couple more weeks, just know they're coming!
5. Olympia, 1 (T-5) 19:36 Team Avg, 13th @ Pre-State Elite; 19:40, 1st @ Hagerty; The Titans has a hiccup at the Pre-State meet running a little slower than I expected them to. Overall their team ranking didn't suffer which really means they have a shot a big things if they put together a big race. Right now they edge over DP because of their 2-7 runners are slightly faster.
6. Dr. Phillips, 1 (T-5) 19:27 Team Avg, 1st @ Holy Trinity; Winning strong at HT, Dr. Phillips is getting stronger each week. Although they are very comparable to Olympia, Blake gives them a larger team average skew and comparing runner to runner is slightly not in their favor. But don't be mistaken, this is a top five caliber team right here!
7. Hagerty, 1 (3) 19:36 Team Avg, 7th @ Pre-State Elite; 20:01, 2nd @ Hagerty; Although the Huskies have the computer edge over DP and Olympia, and I'm confident they'll be just as strong in smaller meets, I feel that the stagger becomes just a little too big in some larger 20+ team meets. Only time will tell how all of Region 1 plays out.
8. Spruce Creek, 1 (4) 20:18 Team Avg, 1st @ Terrier Invite; The Hawks definitely don't deserve to be dropped a few spots in the rankings after winning an invitational, but man, this is season is getting tougher and tougher by the week. In order to stay top five this year, you're going to have to keep dropping time each week!
T-9. Boone, 1 (NR) 20:25 Team Avg, 3rd @ Hagerty
T-9. Lake Mary, 1 (9) 20:19 Team Avg, 4th @ Holy Trinity; 20:39, 4th @ Hagerty
T-10. Winter Park, 1 (NR) 20:30 Team Avg, 17th @ Pre-State; 20:46, 5th @ Hagerty
T-10. Mandarin, 1 (11) 20:25 Team Avg, 18th @ Pre-State
11. Sarasota Riverview, 2 (10) 20:48 Team Avg, 1st @ Pre-State Friday
12. Freedom (Tampa), 2 (13) 20:52 Team Avg, 1st @ Pre-State Invite
13. Seminole, 2 (NR) 20:59 Team Avg, 3rd @ Pre-State Invite
14. Bloomingdale, 2 (NR) 21:32 Team Avg, 11th @ Pre-State Invite
15. Wharton 2 (14) 21:45 Team Avg, 5th @ Terrier Invite
16. Cypress Bay, 3 (15) No major invitationals
17. Dwyer, 3 (16) 21:37 Team Avg, 13th @ Pre-State Invite
18. Jupiter, 3 (22) 22:07 Team Avg, 1st @ Southwest Invite
19. Park Vista, 3 (18) 22:26 Team Avg, 2nd @ Southwest Invite
20. Spanish River, 3 (19) 22:58 Team Avg, 3rd @ Southwest Invite
21. South Dade, 4 (20) 22:33 Team Avg, 2nd @ Varela Viper
22. Coral Reef, 4 (21) 23:25 Team Avg, 6th @ Varela Viper; Missing 1 of their top 2
23. Varela, 4 (23) 23:00 Team Avg, 5th @ Varela Viper
24. Sunset, 4 (24) 25:20 Team Avg, 14th @ Varela Viper; Missing 2 of their top 5
       
  Upcoming Teams:    
  Oviedo, 1 (NR) 20:58 Team Avg, 6th @ Hagerty
  Newsome, 2 (NR) 21:25 Team Avg, 5th @ Pre-State Invite
       
  Slipped from Rankings:    
  St. Petersburg, 2 (12) 21:49 Team Avg, 27th @ Pre-State Elite
  Palm Harbor University, 2 (17) 23:00 Team Avg, 7th @ Manasota Invite

Individual Rankings

Commentary: Once again we had a few shake-ups in our individual listing, primarily with the girls in the teens. Many new girls shot up the list and knocked out girls in the 40s and 50s, while the majority of the top 10 haven't fallen off too much. The most interesting part of this whole list is the depth of some of the top teams in the state; check out the Mock State Score at the bottom.
 
  Athlete Name, Grade – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Bridget Blake, 11 - Dr. Phillips (1) 17:27 @ Holy Trinity
2. Mary Kate Ponder, 12 - Mandarin (4) 18:18 @ Pre-State
3. Amy Ankli, 11 - Hagerty (3) 18:27 @ Pre-State
4. Alex Eaton, 10 - St. Petersburg (6) 18:49 @ Pre-State
5. Alex Payne, 11 - St. Thomas (14) 18:54 @ Pre-State
6. Kaitlyn Campo, 11 - Olympia (5) 18:54 @ Pre-State
7. Lauren Gonzalez, 12 - Ferguson (9) 18:56 @ Pre-State
8. Heather Classe, 11 - Boone (32) 18:58 @ Hagerty
9. Charlotte Stephens, 10 - Winter Park (13) 19:00 @ Pre-State
10. Amber Johnson, 11 - Dr. Phillips (8) 19:03 @ Holy Trinity
11. Lourdes Brea, 10 - Lourdes (24) 19:05 @ Pre-State
12. Julia Rodriguez, 11 - Plant (12) 19:06 @ Pre-State
13. Regan Farrow, 11 - Lake Howell (30) 19:06 @ Pre-State
14. Stephanie De la Guarda, 10 - Ferguson (27) 19:06 @ Pre-State
15. Danielle Kissel, 12 - Plant (NR) 19:07 @ Pre-State
16. Meagan Schloss, 9 - St. Thomas (17) 19:11 @ Pre-State
17. Giselle Suarez, 12 - St. Thomas (NR) 19:14 @ Pre-State
18. Marina Braynon-Moore, 10 - St. Thomas (45) 19:18 @ Pre-State
19. Kaley Schmick, 9 - Cypress Creek (10) 19:19 @ Hagerty
20 Sarah Ankli, 12 - Sarasota Riverview (NR) 19:21 @ Pre-State
21. Annais Pena, 12 - Dr. Phillips (19) 19:22 @ Holy Trinity
22. Emily Hernandez, 10 - Ferguson (26) 19:24 @ Pre-State
23. Cristina Figueras, 10 - Lourdes (37) 19:26 @ Pre-State
24. Kara Halfaker, 12 - Plant (7) 19:26 @ Pre-State
25. Emily Perkinson, 11 - Colonial (22) 19:30 @ Pre-State
26. Victoria Villarnovo, 12 - Lourdes (35) 20:00 @ Disney (DNR @ Pre-State)
27. Erica Oosterhout, 9 - Plant (46) 19:34 @ Pre-State
28. Isabelle Amaro, 11 - West Broward (23) IDLE
29. Jocelin Adona, 12 - Spruce Creek (31) 19:35 @ Terrier
30. Samantha Abbott, 11 - Lake Mary (25) 19:36 @ Holy Trinity
31. Autumn Bartlett, 9 - University Orlando (NR) 19:38 @ West Orange
32. Emily Castella, 9 - Lourdes (NR) 19:39 @ Pre-State
33. Sarah Carrion, 10 - Lake Mary (NR) 19:42 @ Holy Trinity
34. Haley Albers, 10 - Hagerty (38) 19:43 @ Pre-State
35. Scarlett Fox, 11 - Plant (NR) 19:44 @ Pre-State (first race ever!)
36. Caroline Gibson, 11 - Plant (18) 19:46 @ Pre-State
37. Katrina Santiago, 10 - Ferguson (34) 19:46 @ Pre-State
38. Natalie Concepcion, 12 - Ferguson (15) 19:46 @ Pre-State
39. Taylor Watson, 9 - Olympia (16) 19:49 @ Pre-State
40. Anna Montgomery, 10 - Plant (33) 19:49 @ Pre-State
41. Aylwyn Hernandez, 9 - Ferguson (11) 19:50 @ Pre-State
42. Brianna Rischar, 9 - St. Thomas (NR) 19:51 @ Pre-State
43. Lauren Gavulic, 9 - Ferguson (20) 19:52 @ Pre-State
44. Katherine Ralston, 11 - Plant (29) 19:57 @ Pre-State
45. Maite Moscoso, 11 - Lake Brantley (NR) 19:58 @ Pre-State
46. Morgan Morris, 10 - Winter Park (39) 19:59 @ Pre-State
47. Cassie Ketchum, 9 - Boone (55) 20:01 @ Hagerty
48. Emily Headley, 9 - Olympia (2) 20:03 @ Pre-State
49. Tiffany Gargiulo, 11 - Hagerty (53) 20:05 @ Pre-State
50. Kaitlyn Kelly, 12 - Spruce Creek (28) 20:06 @ Terrier
       
  Other girls to look for:    
51. Katherine MacNeal, 10 - Cypress Bay (44) IDLE
52. Caroline Jackson, 10 - Oviedo (NR) 20:11 @ Terrier
53. Bianca Barrios, 10 - Lourdes (NR) 20:11 @ Pre-State
54. Rachel Hayduke, 11 - Seminole (NR) 20:11 @ Pre-State
55. Virnaliz, 12 - Dr. Phillips (NR) 20:12 @ Holy Trinity
56. Avriel McCutcheon, 10 - Lyman (NR) 20:13 @ Holy Trinity
57. Christina Schultz, 10 - Mandarin (NR) 20:13 @ Pre-State
58. Alyssa Hamel, 12 - Olympia (36) 20:14 @ Pre-State
59. Alycia Loriz, 11 - Spruce Creek (NR) 20:15 @ Terrier
60. Katherine Castro, 11 - Viera (NR) 20:15 @ Pre-State
       
  Mock State Score:    
  St. Thomas- 98, Plant- 113, Ferguson- 118, Lourdes (w/o Filliben)- 145

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Boys State Rankings, by Classification:

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1A Boys Rankings

  By: Ray Romero, East Lee County HS, raycer131@aol.com

Team Rankings:

Commentary: So this week for the rankings I decided to start out "High Tech" and use all of the wonderful tools Jason has provided us.  I started by a regional analysis, then took the top 7 or 8 schools from each region depending on how close the scores were.  Next I took the 30 schools this gave me and ran a Mock State meet.  Then I did the same thing using average times instead of best times.  Needless to say I know more about 1A then I ever thought possible.  Here is my picture of the way things should shake out.  HT is still the team to beat and to me look unbeatable in 1A unless something happens on their end.  Trinity Prep and PK Yonge are in a tight fight for 2nd with in my opinion TP having the slightest of edges due to depth.  PK Yonge on paper is the better team by 3 points but if even one of their top 5 have a mistep TP will pounce.  Circle Christian seems to have 4th locked down, but the next 5 or 6 schools could finish in any order as they are only seperated by 60 points from 5th to 9th place.  The team making the biggest statement this last two weeks is Tampa Prep who must have had a fire lit after I removed them from the rankings and just jumped back into the top 10.  I can't wait to see how the teams make a final push for districts, though some of the schools at the top that have their Districts and Regionals locked up will probably train through, while some of the teams in the top 15 may be ranked at a large meet like State, but in a small regional meet will lose out.  Good Luck to you all. (note AVG is calculated on season best times, no feature yet to do the AVG of the AVG...ehem Jason)
 
  Team Name, Region (Prev.)  Comments:
1. Holy Trinity (R-3 #1) (1) 16:00 AVG they have lead from the get go, don't see them giving it away now
2 Trinity Prep (R-2 #1) (2) 16:28 AVG Clinging to the #2 spot thanks to great depth 
2a P.K. Yonge School (R-2 #2 tie breaker) (3) 16:27 AVG but their # 6 is 2 minutes behind their #5 as close as they are to TP that will be their undoing
4 Circle Christian (R-2 #3) (4) 17:08 AVG the Fosters at the top of this team help keep them in the #4 position and their  3-5 only have a 30sec split
5 Tampa Prep (R-2 #4) (NR) 17:39 AVG jumped the rankings I am going out on a limb here and putting you ahead of Bishop Snyder due to AVG of AVG
6 Bishop John J. Snyder (R-1 #1) (11) 17:30 AVG with a 1-5 Split of 48 seconds and 1-7 split of just over 1min this pack mentality is what jumps them 5 spots
7 Maclay (R-1 #2) (5) 17:45 AVG they have been training more than racing, they are a team flying under the radar that will want that top 5 spot back
8 St John Neumann (R-3 #2) (7) 17:45 AVG the team did slip a notch but not because they didn't get better, just other teams made huge moves this week
9 Mount Dora Bible (R-2 #5) (8) 17:53 AVG the 1-5 split is way too much for a team trying to crack into the spots above.
10 First Academy (R-2 #6) (6) 18:02 AVG with a 1-7 split of just over 1 min they will move up as a team easily and may take out more than 1 of the top 10 teams
11 Pensacola Christian (R-1 #3) (10) 18:02 AVG last week I said they needed help and the team answered the top 5 are under 18:30 and #6 & #7 are 18:31 and 18:36
12 Community School of Naples (R-3 #3) (15) 17:54 AVG making huge strides in a tough region will give them a boost up the rankings but a 2 1/2 min 1-5 split will hurt in the end
13 Seffner Christian Academy (R-2 #7) (13) 18:09 AVG gotta be top 6 at regionals to make the big show
14 McKeel Academy (R-3 #4) (9) 18:16 AVG making improvements as a team decent 1-5 split but hasn't improved as much as many of the teams that passed them
15 Keswick Christian (R-3 #5) (NR) 18:14 AVG moving back into the top 15 this week and I have a feeling Westminster and St. Stephens want their spot back
       
  Previously Ranked teams:   Westminster Academy R-4 #1 (12) and St. Stephens Episcopal R-3 #5 (14) 

 

 

Individual Rankings: 

Commentary: There is very little change in the 1 A rankings for individuals.  Daniel Moore still has his strangle hold on the top spot.  Westlake, Gousse, Salas, and Mutz can flip flop on any day or course.  HT, TP, and PKY hold most of the spots on the top 27. Had to expand to top 27 I couldn't leave off the 4 and 5 of TP who are so close to top 25 and times were not comparable due to the night race vs the evening race of Pre-State.  The top 27 has moved around a bit but with only 3 NR runners joining the club its a 5 man race for 2nd place and any of the top 27 could easily make the podium given the right race.
 
  Athlete Name, Grade – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Daniel Moore,12 - Holy Trinity 1. 14:57 Come and get him
2. Garrett Westlake,11 - PKY 2. 15:39 Winner at Keystone and heads win at Flrunners against Gousse
3. Ryan Gousse,12  -Trinity Prep 3. 15:42 Winner of the Friday night race at Prestate in a good time given the weather and an evening race
4. Daniel Salas,11 - Trinity Prep 4. 16:00 @ Disney and a great showing at Prestate Friday night keeps him slightly ahead of Mutz
5. Mark Mutz,12 - Lakeland Chrisitan 5. 15:50 @ Prestate and dropped another 20s in another race, lookout he may go for 2nd place at this rate
6. Joey Castagnaro,12 - Holy Trinity 6. 16:12 @ HT Classic he ran a new SB and I will not move him off his spot
7. Jordan Brown,12 - PKY 11. 16:05 @ Keystone J-boogeying up the rankings is a huge reason PKY might take 2nd place in the team hunt
8. Alex Brown,11 - Holy Trinity 7. 16:12 and an AVG of 16:28 for the year not too shabby for HT's #3 runner
9. Tristan Kattenberg,11 - Holy Trinity 8. 16:08 and an AVG of 16:31 for the year keeps him in the top 10 with 3 of his teammates
10. Jakin Foster,12 - Circle Christian 9. 16:25 @ Flrunners keeps him from dropping too far
11. Sam Goldberg,12 - Trinity Prep 10. 16:32 @ Flrunners needs to close the gap on his teamates to keep his medal and go for the team title
12. Alex Hoffman,12 - Holy Trinity 12. 16:35 and 16:56 AVG for the year will keep him in 12th for this week again
13. Cole Oliver,11 - Holy Trinity 17. 16:29 @ HT Classic he runs for HT and he deserves to be in the top 15 with all 6 of his teammates
14. Alex Montgomery,12 - CSN 18. 16:37 @ Pre-State will make him a mover on the rankings list
15. Andrew Cacciatore,09 - Holy Trinity 13. 16:43 is the top ranked freshman in this class if he can have a breakout State meet he can easily be on the podium
16. David Dolan,12 - PKY 21. 16:40 @ Kestone Heights
17. Derek Bolser,11 - PKY 15. 16:41 and a pass on his effort at Keystone where he had an outlier of a race
18. Jordan Foster,11 - Circle Christian 14. 16:49 time at Flrunners will drop him slightly with no time change over the last 2 weeks
19. Scott Simpson, 11 - Kings Academy 24. 16:44 @ Pre-State makes this kid a huge riser on the chart
20 Troy Clark ,10 - MDB 20 16:59 @ Flrunners top 10th grader in 1A look for him to improve as the season progresses
21. Josh Keenan,11- Seffner Christian Academy 22. 17:03 @ Don Bishop
22. Travis Covert.11 - Maclay 16. 16:56 @ FSU and Idle this past week, but heads up he has the edge over those that ran fast this weekend
23. Blake Arnold,12 - Admiral Farragut 19. 16:55 @ Flrunners 
24. Mario Ojeda, 12 - Northside Christian NR 16:57 @ Pre-State
25. Brent Scott, 12 - CSN NR 16:58 @ Pre-State
26. Sam Millson,10 - Trinity Prep 23. 17:04 @ Flrunners
27. Paul Reggentin,10 - Trinity Prep 25. 17:05 @ Flrunners
      * Times attached are Season Best Times* 

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2A Boys Rankings

  By: Mike Becker, Ransom Everglades, mbecker@ransomeverglades.org

Team Rankings:

Commentary: Ok… we are midway.. Lots has changed in the middle of the pack.. But not at top.  Ransom gets a nose ahead of Kenny this week after a 16:26 average on the fast Pre state course. At first glance a decisive victory over Kenny,  but Kenny did not run some of their top 5.  I still say that you will need a crow bar to separate these two teams at state.  Immokalee did not race this week, and did not get those "fast times" but they appear to still be in top 5.  But separating Immokalee, Robinson  and  Nature Coast very difficult as there have been few head to heads. With these teams, and with Berkeley and Cocoa Beach moving up,  these teams appear to round out the top 7.  Bolles moving up rapidly as well. Pensacola holding steady. After that there is a small drop off at least for now.   Jesuit likely to peak late, Eastside looking like they will be in the top 10.  Lake Nona in the mix too.  Still waiting for Lincoln Park... maybe Marianna?  And I am sure there is a team  waiting to "PROVE ME WRONG"
 
  Team Name (Prev.)  Comments:
1. Ransom Everglades (1A) Back and forth with Kenny continues, Ransom has this week's edge after strong showing at Prestate but they have  a 80 second gap to their 5th runner 
2. Bishop Kenny (1B) Bishop Kenny rests ( does not run?) some of their top 5 at prestate  I still say they are inseparable from Ransom if both teams healthy.
3. Berkeley Prep (3) This team has run well in big meets and improving each week…. 5th man is only 10 seconds from Ransom's fifth and not from Kenny's either
4. Cocoa Beach (4) Moving up every week.  Will they up more?
5. Immokalee (5) Hard to drop a team when they rest a week… don’t compare them to times at pre state but Cocoa and Berkeley did run well
6. Nature Coast (6) Call me crazy... but a pack like that is hard to come by, and they have been consistent… 
7. Robinson (7) Also moving up week by week
8. Bolles  (8) Times for Bolles improving dramatically
9. Pensacola Catholic (9) Fifth man over 18:00…. still otherwise would be lower
10. Lake Nona (10) Similar to Pensacola Catholic 
11. Eastside (NR) Looking for first state birth…. they have been solid
12. Jesuit (NR) I still think these guys will be a lot higher than this
13. West Florida Tech (NR) Two sub 17:00 runners… if the gap improves then so does their standing
14. Lincoln Park (NR) Call me crazy but I think they will be in top 10 when all said and done
15. Astronaut (NR) 4 under 18:00  but no 5th in sight

Individual Rankings: 

Commentary: Separating 1 and 2 difficult… Gazari and Irigoyen have not met, and neither has lost to a AA runner except for Mountain Dew which I threw out as ridiculous ( 500 runners) and Déjà Vu ( where Irigoyen did not appear in results).  But I guess three invitational wins for Azari looks better for now.  Separating 3 through 7 even harder to do, as all five of those guys were at prestate within 6 seconds of each other!!!  I keep getting told that Hodge is a challenger for this group, but he hasn't run a big race (YET).  It also looks like Stanley Linton ready to challenge group as he wind Dolphin Dash by over 40 seconds.  Depth improving as now over 50  guys under 17:00.  That being said, the fast courses ( Pre state and FLRunners) have now all been run on.... time for real cross country  
 
  Athlete Name – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Argishti Gazari - Anclote (1) Looks like he and Irigoyen will not match up until the whole enchilada is up for grabs.. Teammate ran Pre state but not he?
2. Bert Irigoyen -  Ransom Everglades (2) Has been top AA runner in last two big meets but has not meet Gazari - I still say a sleeping giant is lurking
3. Nicholas Palermo- North Broward Prep (3) Speaking of sleeping giants…. Looks like Palermo is back in mix after sub 16:00 effort at pre state
4. Brian Sharp - Robinson (4) Within a whsiper of Irigoyen and Palmero at Pre state…. Has been within smelling  distance of Gazari earlier 
5. Billy Scola - Ransom Everglades (5) 16:02 at pre state- ok now maybe there are 5 legitimate state contenders… because Scola was neck and neck with Sharp and Palermo
6. Alex Main - Berkeley Prep (6) Make it 6 legitimate contenders as Alex Main is always neck and neck with Scola
7. Patrick Maher - Bishop Kenny   Here's a 30 second p.r.. and within just  a few seconds of Palermo
8. Stanley Linton - Wakulla (8) Wins Dolphin Dash by a ton….. That course appears slow.
9. Dillon Hodge - Menendez (9) He could be a lot higher than this … running big meet this week
10. Jean Deceus - Immokalee (10) 16:33 at Fl Runners still best time
11. Shaun Majumdar- Berkeley Prep (NR) Big race at pre state 16:16
12. Jims Thimogene - American Heritage  (NR) 16:19 at pre state
13. Don Kerrigan - Pensacola Catholic (NR) 16:24 pre state
14. Michael Barr- Bishop Kenny (NR) p.r. ed at pre state 16:25
15. Alec Clarke -West Florida Tech (NR) 16:24 holds up
16. Matthew Harwood- Episcopal   16:26 holds up
17. Leonel De La Cruz- Immokalee   did not race but holds pr from Fl runners
18. Tim O'laughlin - Jesuit   16:40 from Land O Lakes holds up
19. Costa Thasis- Cocoa Beach   16:32 pre state
20 Chris Sorrick - Anclote   16:35 pre state
21. Taylor Hickey- Rockledge   16:37 from FL runers holds up
22. Eddie Bustamante - Ransom Everglades   16:34 frpm pre state

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3A Boys Rankings

  By: Carl Egbert, Barron Collier HS, carlegbert@yahoo.com

Team Rankings:

Commentary:  Belen Jesuit laid down the gauntlet at Pre States pushing 5 guys under 16:00. The only question mark is who will join them on the podium this year. Any of the teams in spots 2-10 can run their way into the runner up spot. Estero looked awesome on Saturday as did Naples and BTW. Fort Walton stayed away from Pre States but did beat Estero head to head at Disney in the rain. Anything can happen in the next month and we will see teams go backwards and we will see teams surge ahead. Lots of high level racing in the next few weeks with Conference and County meets looming.
 
  Team Name, Region (Prev.)  Comments:
1. Belen Jesuit - 4 (1) 5 under 16:00 and completely smoked the Elite field @ Pre State. 
2. Fort Walton Beach - 1 (2) Good win @ Disney beating Estero head to head who was 4th in Elite field @ Pre States
3. Estero - 3 (3) Huge weekend @ Pre States finishing 4th in the Elite race
4. Booker T Washington - 1 (4) 6th @ Pre State with a 16:23 team average
5. Naples-3 (5) Monster day for the Golden Eagles with a 7th in Elite race @ Pre State with 16:26 team avg
6. Wiregrass Ranch-2 (6) 8th in Elite Race @ Pre State with 16:29 team avg
7. Fort Myers-3 (7) Coach Palmer had a good ride back to FM after team was 13th in Elite Race with 16:33 avg
8. Bartram Trail - 1 (8) Bartram slips a bit with modest showing at Pre State finishing 14th in Elite Race 16:34
9. Chiles - 1 (9) Finished 15th in Elite Race with 16:34 team avg right behind Bartram
10. George Steinbrenner-2 (10) 17th in Elite Race clocking a 16:41 team average
11. Leon - 1 (NR) 16:48 team avg at Pre State finishing 19th in Elite Race
12. Stanton Prep-1 (NR) IDLE
13. Chamberlin-2 (NR) 22nd in Elite race with 16:48 avg
14. Palmetto Ridge-3 (NR) 2 sub 15:45 guys make them a threat in a big meet format
15. Charlotte-3 (NR) 23rd in Elite race with 17:03 team avg

Individual Rankings: 

Commentary: Lots of new faces on the Top 26 list this go around and lots of movement within the Top 10. Belen Jesuit places 5 guys on the list while Naples, Palmetto Ridge, Niceville , BTW and Steinbrenner place 2 apiece. With del Monte finding his form the individual battle should tighten up a bit. Elliot is still the clear front runner but Carlos knows he's close and if the pace dawdles you don't want to be near him. The next month should provide plenty of good racing and interesting story lines.
 
  Athlete Name, Grade – Team (Prev.)  Time, Comments:
1. Elliot Clemente,12- Belen Jesuit (1) 15:54 win @ JR Orange Bowl and 15:02 @ PreState makes him the man 
2. Carlos Miranda,11 - Palmetto Ridge (2) 15:17 @ Pre State means Carlos is here to play! Welcome to the deep end!
3. Max del Monte,12 - Chamberlin 7 Rounding into form nicely with 15:19 @ Pre State. Will be a factor in November
4. Mac Reynolds,12 - Nease 8 Kid is tough and not afraid to run up front. 15:22 @ Pre State
5. Thomas Howell,10 - Niceville 3 16:17 win @ SE Showdown. Still a top 5 contender.
6. Aaron Rojas,12 - Estero 5 16:03 win @ Disney and 15:37 @ PreState. Always in the mix and tough!
7. Avery Lopez,11 - Belen Jesuit 9 15:33 @ Pre State makes for a lethal 1-2 for Belen
8. Andrew Iglesias,10 - Pembroke Pines Ch NR Huge bomb by soph . 16:28 was best prior to this clocking
9. Quincey O'Connor - Celebration 4 Very consistent running 15:40 @ Pre State
10. Buddy Gates,11 - Naples 6 Big Dawg was runner up at Disney with 16:06 and ran 15:47 @ Pre State
11. Josh Pelletier,12 - Palmetto Ridge 12 Proves he belongs with top guys with 15:43 clocking @ PreState
12. Michael Magoulas,10 - Belen Jesuit 10 Soph keeps rockin n rollin with 15:46 @ Pre State
13. Francisco Tejidor,12 - Belen Jesuit 11 Good grief 4th man in for Belen running 15:47. 
14. Jacob Kotick,12 - BTW 15 Solid run for senior from BTW
15. Christian Buzzard,12 - Chiles 18 Best name on this list and and a nifty 15:49 PR @ Pre State
16. Ace Brown , 11 - Fort Myers 14 Big PR and school record 15:53 @ Pre State. 
17. Fabian Thomas, 10 - Belen Jesuit NR Nice PR of 15:55 puts 5 under 16:00 for Belen Jesuit
18. Nicholas Morken, 10 - Niceville 13 16:38 @ SE Showdown for 5th
19. Travis Nichols,10 - Land O Lakes NR Big PR for the soph of 16:04 @ Pre State
20 Jose Perez, 12 - Haines City NR 16:04 @ Pre State
21. Lee Shearer, 11 - Naples NR Little puppy off the porch running with Big Dawg Herbie after 16:04 bomb!
22. Sam Hippely , 12 - Wiregrass Ranch NR 16:05 @ Pre State
23. David Drumm, 12 - Matanzas NR 16:11 @ Pre State
24. Matt Magee, 11 - Steinbrenner NR 16:07 @ Pre State
25. Tyler Bess-Lima , 11 - Steinbrenner NR 16:08 @ Pre State
26. Luke Baldwin , 9 - BTW NR Had to make room for stud frosh who runs 16:08!

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4A Boys Rankings

  By: Jorge Fleitas, Columbus HS - jfleitas@columbushs.com

Team Rankings:

  Team Name, Region (Prev.)  Comments:
1. Colonial (1) Colonial still sits in the #1 position placing 7 runners in front of Columbus's 5. They should still be the favorite holding on to the #1 spot for Nov 19. 
2. Columbus (2) The Hellions have the look of a team destined for a 4th Title, but they are in need for each of them to step up big come Nov 19
3. HB Plant (4) Maybe HB Plant will surprise the state on Nov 19, it is looking like a distinct possibility with 5 guys under 16:39.
4. Winter Park (8) The Park showed they won't go gently into the night, with an impressive showing at Pre-State look for Anguish to lead his team to a top finish at the State meet.
5. St. Thomas (5)  There is no shame in losing to my No. 4-ranked team on the poll, and they actually were somewhat impressive in that loss…St Thomas should hold on to a top 5 finish!
6. Olympia (3) Olympia didn't seem to be able to put it all together at Pre-State, they are built to be a State contender and come November don’t look past them.
7. Spruce Creek (6) It’s really not fair to rank the Creek one spot down, but the Creek was a no show at Pre State and got an easy win at the Terrier Invitational.
8. Seminole (12) Seminole continues to prove they actually can be a top 5 team , but they need to start creating more seperation between themselves and the average teams.
9. Mandarin  (13) Tyler Mowery, and Michael Aitken are clearly the catalysts for this team, but one cannot overlook what the #3-5 pack provided at Pre-State.
10. Sunset (10) Sunset continue to fight hard in holding their 10th spot,  Pre State looked to be the tipping point edging them over Ferguson for good…but only time will tell.
11. John A Ferguson (14)  
12. John I Leonard (7)  
13. Park Vista (9)  
14. Oviedo (NR)  
15. Hagerty (11)  

Individual Rankings: 

  Athlete Name – Team (Prev.)  
1. Andres Arroyo - Colonial (1)  
2. Chris Godwin - Buchholz (2)  
3. Billy Anguish - Winter Park (3)  
4. Michael Babinec- Riverview (6)  
5. Anderson Charles - John I Leonard (8)  
6. Mitchell Moore - Olympia (4)  
7. Manny Garcia -  Columbus (12)  
8. Thomas Christenberry - HB Plant (7)  
9. Jacob Hudak- Seminole (NR)  
10. Otniel Teixeira - Lake Brantley (9)  
11. Danny Fernandez - Columbus (11)  
12. Kurt Convey- Coral Reef (18)  
13. Daniel Dey- Olympia (9)  
14. Ryan White - Park Vista (13)  
15. Peter Licari - Hagerty (14)  
16. John Lindsey - Winter Park (17)  
17. Tom Mccarthy- St. Thomas (NR)  
18. Cody Decker- Colonial (16)  
19. Curtis Foulsham - HB Plant (22)  
20. Brian Anderson - Lyman (NR)  
21. Andrew Carpenter- Spruce Creek (19)  
22. John Profitt - Colonial (20)  
23. Ryan Hunder (NR)  
24. Nick Lehman- Olympia (21)  
25. Edward Romero- Flanagan (24)  

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Please remember that all of these rankings are done by volunteers and are meant to increase the overall enjoyment of the sport for athletes, coaches, parents, and fans. They are just for fun and should not have a lot of weight put on them. But if you have issues (such as a missed athlete or team), please email the individual pollster for your classification and gender, or direct any major concerns towards the State Rankings Representative: Coach Ryan Raposo- rraposo@dadeschools.net

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  • runnerchick / 2 Years Ago
    Titusville is so good they are ranked twice!! How awesome for them :)
  • jdpsu / 2 Years Ago
    4A Girls-Olympia's Emily Headley (mid 18's all year except Pre-State)....drops to #48 from #2. Taylor Watson (19:20's) drops to #39 from #16. Alyssa Hamel (high 19's) went to #58 from #36. Trying to fire the Olympia girls up, Ryan? ?
  • Chuck462 / 2 Years Ago
    FYI, Fort Walton Beach, 3A, did not have the week off. They ran in the Black Cat Invitational in Milton. fl.milesplit.com/meets/101631

    They just have not posted the results yet. Both FWB Boys and Girls varsity teams won their meets.
  • CoachRaposo / 2 Years Ago
    jdpsu
    4A Girls-Olympia's Emily Headley (mid 18's all year except Pre-State)....drops to #48 from #2. Taylor Watson (19:20's) drops to #39 from #16. Alyssa Hamel (high 19's) went to #58 from #36. Trying to fire the Olympia girls up, Ryan?


    @jdpsu Gotta give the athletes that performed well their chance to be ranked. To do otherwise would be unfair to all of those other athletes. I know Olympia will be there when it matters.
  • egbert / 2 Years Ago
    FWB apparently did race this weekend but no results were ever sent in. They won the Black Cat Invite with a team avg of 16:01 further solidifying them as #2 in 3A. They had some monster runs which deserve to be mentioned:
    Tim Bulger- 15:43
    Alex Godfrey- 15:57
    Joe Guidry- 16:03 and just a Frosh!
  • Chuck462 / 2 Years Ago
    CoachRaposo
    jdpsu4A Girls-Olympia's Emily Headley (mid 18's all year except Pre-State)....drops to #48 from #2. Taylor Watson (19:20's) drops to #39 from #16. Alyssa Hamel (high 19's) went to #58 from #36. Trying to fire the Olympia girls up, Ryan?

    @jdpsu Gotta give the athletes that performed well their chance to be ranked. To do otherwise would be unfair to all of those other athletes. I know Olympia will be there when it matters.



    Wow..just wow. Having a little wiggle room in the rankings is understanding. Maybe you know of some personal issues, course layout, injuries that may skew your rankings some, but to state this is just crazy. Rank them according to performance and their history, not what is "fair". Ranking a runner higher than what he/she should be is very cruel. Some runners may see their jump in rankings, feel good about themselves, only to be crushed in competition, fueling a self-pity outburst.
  • CoachRaposo / 2 Years Ago
    Chuck462
    Wow..just wow. Having a little wiggle room in the rankings is understanding. Maybe you know of some personal issues, course layout, injuries that may skew your rankings some, but to state this is just crazy. Rank them according to performance and their history, not what is "fair". Ranking a runner higher than what he/she should be is very cruel. Some runners may see their jump in rankings, feel good about themselves, only to be crushed in competition, fueling a self-pity outburst.


    @Chuck462 So if an athlete runs a minute slow, then keep them ranked where they were "just because"? Yeah, No. If you have the ability to be the best, then show it just like everyone else. No one deserves to be ranked high based on their history when they just lost head-to-head. This is not "very cruel", it's reality. And if a team trained through a meet, then so be it. But those other kids deserve to be moved up and see their performances be noticed.

    If you were a pollster, good luck trying to justify why you ranked everyone where you did "just because" or because you were playing favorites. That would have way more people upset than the reason you are getting upset. This is nothing personal, as you would have it, it's all objective measures.
  • aholmes80 / 2 Years Ago
    Fort Walton Beach girls could have probably been ranked higher. No results were reported to flrunners.com and the meet was not listed on their team page. I did talk to the coach and he gave me results. Coaches, please get results in! Their top 5 did great- I think was state earlier- 17:53 school record by Chastain, White 19:06, Moller 19:19, Rusell 19:39, Rodgers 19:42. Their team average was 19:06- and that was with their #4 and #5 running JV
  • jason / 2 Years Ago
    @CoachRaposo Every pollster has their methods and philosophies. And Ryan does a great job. With that said, I personally would agree with Dey and Chuck... when I was a pollster (years ago now) I would have not made such a drastic move after one out of character performance. Knock them down? Yes. But I'd look at the season as a whole and not just last week. There could be any number of reasons for a bad week.

    But I think Ryan's logic is when it comes to big meets.... show up or don't, what have you done lately, and who did you beat (or lose to) last week. Both philosophies have merit.
  • runnerchick / 2 Years Ago
    I don't understand why everything in the forum has to become a huge debate and argument. It takes the fun out of flrunners. I hate seeing the same people take one small comment and making it a huge deal. Guys come on...let it go. So what...rankings are just on paper...it is all for fun....it is not going to actually dictate what happens at the state meet. Sure, it is fun to look at, but it means NOTHING!!! When the day comes it is either your race or it is not.

    Same goes for most other posts....why? I just have to ask why? Arguments like this and many others is the main reason I hardly even come on flrunners any more. It is all drama and no fun!!!

    Lighten up, enjoy the races, enjoy the sport. Quit acting like you know everything about running and just enjoy life.
  • CoachRaposo / 2 Years Ago
    jason
    Ryan does a great job. But I think Ryan's logic is when it comes to big meets.... show up or don't, what have you done lately, and who did you beat (or lose to) last week. Both philosophies have merit.


    @jason A compliment from Jason! Amazing, and thank you.


    runnerchick
    I don't understand why everything in the forum has to become a huge debate and argument. It takes the fun out of flrunners. I hate seeing the same people take one small comment and making it a huge deal. Guys come on...let it go. So what...rankings are just on paper...it is all for fun....it is not going to actually dictate what happens at the state meet. Sure, it is fun to look at, but it means NOTHING!!! When the day comes it is either your race or it is not.


    @runnerchick THANK YOU.
  • jdpsu / 2 Years Ago
    @runnerchick I agree-I deleted most of my posts except the one I think is pertinent. I do know a lot of runners take these polls seriously, so they need an explanation of a certain person's logic.....

    Ryan-I agree to disagree.....
  • CoachRaposo / 2 Years Ago
    @jdpsu Edited and Done.
  • KBrnnr / 2 Years Ago
    @nmmeans Not trying to start an argument, just wondering how you came up with this logic for your rankings-- "Wollrath ran on the blazing fast Holy Trinity course, while Candiano and Seymour ran the Pre-State course, which isn't quite as fast (but still fast). "



    HT is fast, but the Pre State course was clearly just as fast if not faster THIS YEAR. The course got heavy rain and was not as fast as in years past.
  • CoachRaposo / 2 Years Ago
    KBrnnr
    HT is fast, but the Pre State course was clearly just as fast if not faster THIS YEAR. The course got heavy rain and was not as fast as in years past.


    @KBrnnr Personally I keep them just about the same. I know the HT course usually has quick times, and a couple of passes on the track definitely speeds things up.
  • KBrnnr / 2 Years Ago
    CoachRaposo
    @KBrnnr Personally I keep them just about the same. I know the HT course usually has quick times, and a couple of passes on the track definitely speeds things up.


    @CoachRaposo Agreed. It has been a very quick course in the past. I just think most of those runners could have run faster on the LER course for Pre State with that competition. (Maybe 5-10 seconds at most)


    69 of the top 100 boys times this year came from Pre-State. I know competition breeds fast times but that course is also blazing fast.
  • nmmeans / 2 Years Ago
    @KBrnnr No worries, since I did put Julie #1... I would have thought the previous week's rain (yes, I know, 7 inches) had drained off the course and I wouldn't think that would affect HT's course much except maybe in the field south of the track anyway, and in the past HT's course has consistently produced whole teams of PRs. Note that four other individuals in the rankings had season bests of 13 seconds or better at HT this weekend (and Julie's was 20 seconds better than her GAXC time). I also kept Julie ahead because her performance was more recent.

    All three are 20 seconds or more ahead of the rest and the state meet is going to be VERY interesting.

    Ultimately, though, what happens on November 19th is all that matters and this will all be rendered meaningless.
  • KBrnnr / 2 Years Ago
    nmmeans

    Ultimately, though, what happens on November 19th is all that matters and this will all be rendered meaningless.


    @nmmeans Correct. And I was afraid of starting a discussion for fear of people thinking a was "hating" on you. I love your rankings and thought I could ask without you getting offended. I am glad you didn't take it the wrong way! As for Julie running fast, I think it was a combination of 2 things. 1. She ran a smarter race than GA because GA just goes out really fast and it is easy to get sucked in. 2. Having Shelby and Bridget there surely helped. Her familiarity with Shelby has always yielded fast times, for both of them!
  • BConvey / 2 Years Ago
    @KBrnnr Little Everglades was the same length and terrain on Friday as Saturday. It wasn't particularly fast on Friday, but it was fast on Saturday. Obviously, the two MAJOR differences were competition and weather. It was around 65-70 degrees in the morning as opposed to probably high 80s on Friday. Running with tough competition (on a wide open course) on a cool day is probably a minimum 10 second bonus to the best runners and can be even more.
  • ssalis / 2 Years Ago
    4a Boys Rankings has at least 1 problem. It ranks 7 Teams from Region 1. While talent wise that may be true, only 6 teams will escape region 1, so this will not ultimately be the State team rankings.
  • jdpsu / 2 Years Ago
    ssalis
    4a Boys Rankings has at least 1 problem. It ranks 7 Teams from Region 1. While talent wise that may be true, only 6 teams will escape region 1, so this will not ultimately be the State team rankings.


    Welcome to the Region of Death....
  • Moby / 2 Years Ago
    watch out for saint andrew's boys for 2A - 5 18:00 and under at boca city championships
  • fireman08 / 2 Years Ago
    Looks like Olympia girls get a little boost in the rankings after metros...or do we still go by pre state rankings???
  • jdpsu / 2 Years Ago
    @fireman08 Out of respect for my good friend Ryan, no comment....