flrunners.com

Just your opinion, but has the site become better or worse over the past month or two since coachemorris came back onto the forum voicing his opinions with his attempt 'to better the sports of CC and TF in the state of Florida'.

@CoachRaposo No option for "the same"? I don't see where Coach Morris affects the quality of Flrunners.com. It seems like you are really asking people if they appreciate his participation in the forums, or are bothered by it-- which, to me, is not really an appropriate topic. It seems more like you are trying to prove a point to someone. I will say this, filling up the forum with posts made for the purpose of being "top contributor" detracts from the value and purpose of the forum in my view. But so do a lot of other types of posts-- which I am free to not read.

BConvey

I don't see where Coach Morris affects the quality of Flrunners.com.

@BConvey After having a slew of conversations with Jason over the years, I will have to disagree. The forum is actually what helps increase or decrease traffic flow on the website. Lots of discussion means lots website activity, UNLESS, the posts are meaningless or start becoming derogatory, then traffic declines.

So considering the frequency in which he is on this website and with the type of comments that he posts, I would argue he has had an a effect on the website, and it's not a positive one. Maybe he'll get the hint that HE IS NOT contributing towards helping our sports in the state of Florida, he's just some guy on a forum who is decreasing traffic flow and making more than a few people dislike him.

@CoachRaposo Translation: People who dislike Raposo flock to the forum to hate on him, people who dislike CoacheMorris leave in droves. Let's say I agree with that (without any evidence), then isn't the solution for CoacheMorris to just post in a more regular contributing fashion instead of trying to whip-up conversations for points or as self-appointed leader? He has experience and enthusiasm which are clearly positives for dialogue and that I appreciate.

CoachRaposo

BConveyI don't see where Coach Morris affects the quality of Flrunners.com.


@BConvey After having a slew of conversations with Jason over the years, I will have to disagree. The forum is actually what helps increase or decrease traffic flow on the website. Lots of discussion means lots website activity, UNLESS, the posts are meaningless or start becoming derogatory, then traffic declines.

So considering the frequency in which he is on this website and with the type of comments that he posts, I would argue he has had an a effect on the website, and it's not a positive one. Maybe he'll get the hint that HE IS NOT contributing towards helping our sports in the state of Florida, he's just some guy on a forum who is decreasing traffic flow and making more than a few people dislike him.

@CoachRaposo You are the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

The answer is: BETTER.

While Coach Morris might get a little (or a lot) points obsessed sometimes and some of his posts might therefore be basically just fluff. Look at the evidence. The forum is more active than it's been in quite a while right now... AND IT IS SUMMER.

There might be some garbage going around, but I think there have been some good meaningful conversations. And frankly a mix of both of those things... fun, light, a little spicy banter... mixed with some good meaningful conversations... I think that is what makes the forum strong. So let's not go too overboard with the flame wars. And let's try to keep our point lust in check and add meaningful commentary to the conversation. But I think the proof is in the pudding. Thanks Coach Morris for being a part of the community again!

PS... I have tweaked the algorithm for top contributor (and will continue to do so). It is starting to look at post quality and weighing accordingly. There will be more tweaks to it to keep it honest and keep you on your toes.

I too voted for "better" for the reasons Jason listed above. I do find Coachemorris' posts annoying, long winded, and sometimes a bit "cocky". However, many times I just choose not to read them. It's really not that hard to just avoid him. The same theory applies to you @CoachRaposo. Many times when you get to arguing with people I just stop reading your posts.



I was actually disappointed that you started this thread. It was something I wouldn't even have expected from him, let alone you. Childish to be honest.

BConvey

Translation: People who dislike Raposo flock to the forum to hate on him, people who dislike CoacheMorris leave in droves.

@BConvey Completely incorrect. This is why Jason tells me all the time to be nice to people, otherwise they start leaving when I talk down to them, just like morris has been doing lately. Besides that, then Jason likes to push my buttons to help drive traffic by doing such things as countering my argument as he did in this post.

BConvey

Let's say I agree with that (without any evidence), then isn't the solution for CoacheMorris to just post in a more regular contributing fashion instead of trying to whip-up conversations for points or as self-appointed leader? He has experience and enthusiasm which are clearly positives for dialogue and that I appreciate.

Sounds like someone is trying to be the nice guy so he can drive up his 'favorite poster' ratings! I'll have none of this and continue being the jerk that I am! LOL!

gottapanda

You are the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

@gottapanda Considering that none of you, including Jason, heard of this term until I brought it up, I think it's hilarious that you two have tried to use it against me with an improper description of the term.

Allow me to to quote Jason's mis-illustration of the term's definition "The theory basically says that the dumb people are so self-confident and believe themselves (and their opinions) to be superior and absolutely right, but really they are wrong and just too closed minded to see things from other angles. Where as the really smart/skilled people who are right keep an open mind and consider that others may be be their peers and have valid points." VERSUS what I wrote last time... "@jason Incorrect. Dumb people are self-confident with LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OR SKILL of a subject area. eg. people "knowing" a course is a 5k although they don't know how to measure a course. The goal is to TEACH these individuals that they are incorrect. Whereas intelligent people question themselves and their knowledge. It has nothing to do with keeping an open mind."

But in the context of the term when looking at it from an arguing perspective? Pick a topic: Course measuring? PLEASE. Auto-qualifiers? PLEASE. Morris being an idiot? PLEASE.

Call me an insensitive, overly blunt, a pain in the ass all you want, but to argue that I'm ignorant, non-intelligent, or don't know what I'm talking about? Well that's just ridiculously stupid.

jason

The forum is more active than it's been in quite a while right now... AND IT IS SUMMER.

That's because of Doboy and myself ARGUING with him. But I KNOW you love arguments.

jason

So let's not go too overboard with the flame wars

Someone APPARENTLY hasn't been reading the posts lately!

KBrnnr

The same theory applies to you @CoachRaposo. Many times when you get to arguing with people I just stop reading your posts.

The reason why my posts get so long is because people don't read what I write, this post is an example. Then someone will repeat an argument as was stated above and I'm quick to counteract them again usually quoting myself.

KBrnnr

I was actually disappointed that you started this thread. It was something I wouldn't even have expected from him, let alone you. Childish to be honest.

Childish? This coming from the guy who has a half dozen trolling accounts! NICE!!!

CoachRaposo

Childish? This coming from the guy who has a half dozen trolling accounts! NICE!!!

@CoachRaposo USED to have. I haven't used an alias in probably 2 years. And I will call them childish. I am willing to admit when I am wrong (usually). I WAS WRONG. I posted many hurtful things under the disguise of an alias. I matured.



You are stooping below his,@coachemorris, level. That is all.

KBrnnr

You are stooping below his level. That is all.

@KBrnnr Do you still love me?!

@CoachRaposo You are too arrogant to even entertain the possibility that you could ever be wrong. About anything. And besides that, questioning yourself and your beliefs = keeping an open mind in my book. Of course... let's skip the next 25 posts and I'll just concede now: I'm wrong and you're right. Happy now?

Maybe there should be a new twist on @KBrnnr 's favorite poster poll and do least favorite poster. I know who I'm voting for.

jason

I'm wrong and you're right. Happy now? Maybe there should be a new twist on @KBrnnr 's favorite poster poll and do least favorite poster. I know who I'm voting for.

@jason Love you, J! And I've had a couple of ideas for good-natured posts, I'm just waiting for more of a dull period to post them. You know I'm not always a jerk!

CoachRaposo

@gottapanda Considering that none of you, including Jason, heard of this term until I brought it up, I think it's hilarious that you two have tried to use it against me with an improper description of the term.

@CoachRaposo Haha, I know I used the term inappropriately. However, I knew it was guaranteed to get a rise out of you, so maybe I didn't use it incorrectly. I probably should have just called you a hypocrite, as you are hardly in a position to cast aspersions on the quality of others' posts, but I digress.

I enjoy a lot of what you post and the banter between you and pretty much everyone else here. I still maintain that you can get personal or derogatory too quickly, though. A healthy community (what we have here on the forum, dysfunctional though it may be) should be able to tolerate differing opinions. People are more likely to contribute when they don't have to worry about being drowned out by a deluge of posts calling them stupid. Just get better at arguing. Then, you won't have to incorporate personal insults to drive your points home.

gottapanda

Haha, I know I used the term inappropriately. However, I knew it was guaranteed to get a rise out of you, so maybe I didn't use it incorrectly.

@gottapanda I've been set up twice today! DAMN ALL OF YOU!! LOL!

Differences of opinion give birth to passionate arguments; and passionate points are far more compelling. So if Coachmorris or any other contributor inspire you coachraposo- I am benefited. There are those who consistently are on the opposite side of a debate from me. Some make intelligent points, so i read their posts. Others suggest it's a blessing that coachraposo doesn't have kids of his own- those are opinions of zero value to me.

In the end, i can chose to read or not read whatever I want. Still freedom of choice in some aspects of being an American!

This is why Raposo is my favorite contributor to the site.

ReinholdNiehbur

I assume you like controversy. A little is good but watching a bully at work is usually not pretty.

@ReinholdNiehbur Bully through use of intelligence and witty remarks? LOVIN' IT!

ReinholdNiehbur

You certainly have developed an ability to abuse people who incite your ire. Yet, you are unusually appeasing to some - BConvey and Wolfpack come to mind. Now, if you treated everyone like them this forum would probably be gigantic. You are correct that some favor you because you blast other people (it's like watching a car wreck) but there are probably far more who would weather your outbursts if they felt that you were in any way as critical of yourself as others.

@ReinholdNiehbur

Your point has merit. I suspect a lot more people than myself (and Wolfpack) would appreciate a respectful tone of conversation with Raposo.

That said, I'd call it mutual respect not appeasement. I'd like to think that some of the reason Raposo doesn't blast me is because I seldom really argue with him. I may disagree, but I tend to do it more in the spirit of learning than having an agenda. I'm more interested in learning than I am in "proving" something. Also, I love to poke fun at Raposo and have found he has a superb sense of humor and does not take himself so seriously that he can't take a joke. I consider internet forums to be a source of information/communication AND a form of entertainment. I think Raposo performs both functions adeptly. To some degree what category his posts fall into depends on your perspective, attitude and your own communication style/message.